Are you eating healthy, exercising, taking supplements, and doing everything you’re supposed to do—yet still feeling exhausted, stressed, or unhappy? What if the missing ingredient in healthy aging isn’t more discipline, but more JOY?
In this episode of More Life to Your Years with Vincent Ferguson, I sit down with Dr. Erica Oberg, naturopathic doctor and author of Healthy Hedonism: Why Feeling Good Is Good for You, to explore why living healthier shouldn’t mean sacrificing everything that makes life enjoyable.
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Dr. Oberg challenges the idea that better health always requires more restrictions, rigid routines, and willpower. Instead, she explains how pleasure, meaningful relationships, enjoyable movement, and everyday happiness can help us build healthier habits and improve our quality of life—especially after 40.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE
Why doing everything “right” for your health can sometimes leave you feeling exhausted and overwhelmed.
What healthy hedonism really means—and why pleasure doesn’t have to be the enemy of good health.
How to find exercise and physical activities you actually enjoy so you’re more likely to stay consistent.
The connection between chronic stress, loneliness, meaningful relationships, and healthy aging.
Why menopause and perimenopause can affect women’s energy, sleep, mood, and overall well-being.
What women should consider when discussing hormone replacement therapy (HRT) with their healthcare providers.
Why peptides and emerging longevity treatments require careful evaluation and medical guidance.
How to enjoy food, movement, and everyday pleasures without feeling guilty or overwhelmed by wellness rules.
Why strong social connections can be an important part of living a longer, healthier life.
One simple thing you can do THIS WEEK to add more life to your years!
CAN PLEASURE ACTUALLY BE GOOD FOR YOUR HEALTH?
Many adults over 40 find themselves following strict diets, counting calories, tracking steps, and taking supplements, yet still feeling exhausted or disconnected from the things they love.
Dr. Oberg believes that when healthy living becomes another stressful obligation, we may be missing something essential: the ability to enjoy our lives.
In this conversation, we explore the difference between healthy pleasure and harmful indulgence, why sustainable habits matter more than perfection, and how small moments of joy can help us approach wellness differently. We also discuss the growing longevity industry, hormone health, and why making informed healthcare decisions matters.
ABOUT DR. ERICA OBERG
Dr. Erica Oberg, ND, MPH, is a naturopathic doctor, prevention-focused clinician, and author of Healthy Hedonism: Why Feeling Good Is Good for You.
Her approach combines scientific research, personalized healthcare, and the belief that good health should enhance our enjoyment of life rather than restrict it. You can follow and learn more about Dr. Oberg below:
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Healthy Hedonism: Why Feeling Good Matters
A conversation with Dr. Erica Oberg and Vincent Ferguson
MORE LIFE TO YOUR YEARS | VINCE MAGAZINE • EDITED INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT
Vince Ferguson
Could our obsession with being healthy actually be making us unhealthy? You talk about people who eat right, exercise, track their sleep, and take supplements, yet still feel exhausted and miserable. Why is that?
Dr. Erica Oberg
It is very common. I wrote this book after just seeing that pattern in so many of my patients. They’d come in saying, “I’m doing all the things. I’m working out several times a week. I’m following the healthy diet, or at least what I think is a healthy diet. I’m trying to count my steps, get in my 10,000 steps, et cetera. And I just feel exhausted.” Part of the exhaustion is that health has just become another thing on our to-do list We’ve got this checklist of the steps, the calories, the grams of protein, the hours of sleep, the minutes of REM, and it can become another stressful task, and most people have too much stress in their lives already. So I wrote this book to, investigate the science and remind people that there are important things that happen to our physiology when we’re joyful and when we’re doing things that we enjoy. And that’s, I think, truly our — a key part of our path to health, is to attune to those things that feel good and are good for us.
Vince Ferguson
Which is really important. And when you say feel good, what do you mean by that?
Dr. Erica Oberg
For example, Vince, I’m guessing you love going to the gym?
Vince Ferguson
Love it. Yes.
Dr. Erica Oberg
You love it. I love going to my dance class, but weight training, not so much. It has never really resonated for me. And so what I find for myself personally, and for most people, is that the fitness that’s going to be best for you is the one that you’re actually going to do, and do consistently. And if you hate your gym circuit workout, you’re not going to do it. If you’re on the treadmill and you’re counting the seconds until it’s done, you’re less likely to do it. But if you’re outside, going for a walk in your neighborhood, talking to the neighbors, meeting the dogs, you might do that every day. You might do that three times a day because you really enjoy doing it. So part of how I help patients get healthier is to help them do a little bit more of that investigation into what is working: Where am I really enjoying life and doing things that are good for me that are also enjoyable? And from there, we can start to build more healthy habits that are also enjoyable.
Vince Ferguson
So you try to find out what would work for your clients. Basically, what they would do if they enjoyed doing it.
Dr. Erica Oberg
If the low-carb diet leaves you depleted and exhausted after you’ve eaten, that’s probably not going to be the right thing for you. I’m not saying that you can switch to a French-fry-only diet, because that’s not going to feel very good later in the day. You’re going to have a stomach ache, you’re going to feel heavy and yucky. But if we truly attune to what tastes good, what we enjoy, what works for us as an individual, and what’s still going to feel good later in the day that will steer us towards those healthy pleasures.
Finding Pleasure in Healthy Choices
Vince Ferguson
Because your book is called Healthy Hedonism, and most people associate hedonism with overindulgence rather than good health, what inspired you to choose that title?
Dr. Erica Oberg
I meant the title to be a little provocative. The true definition of hedonism is simply moving towards things that feel good and away from things that cause pain. We all know that, the idea of “no pain, no gain” in a workout. That is not necessarily a good idea. You probably see that in your older adult clients. They push through it and they injure themselves.
Vince Ferguson
Definitely.
Dr. Erica Oberg
So no pain, no gain is not the healthy attitude towards how we achieve our results. And so hedonism is simply that, starting to realign with what feels good on that cellular level, on that personal level, and that turns into a lifetime of healthy habits that you enjoy in the in the moment and are going to be part of your longevity pattern.
Vince Ferguson
Here’s where I want to challenge you, drawing from my own experience. If someone enjoys eating cookies every night Maybe they’re drinking some wine or sitting on the couch watching television. How do we distinguish between pleasure that’s good for us and the pleasure that’s slowly damaging our health?
Dr. Erica Oberg
There are a lot of factors at play. And in my book, Healthy Hedonism, I discuss wine in detail, because that’s a question that people always have And I use the example of two different people and three glasses of wine. In the first example is a stressed out, person, comes home from work, they’re exhausted, they’re on overload, they have a glass of wine from the box in the refrigerator to turn off the mind, and that glass of wine turns into a second glass of wine, and motivation for making dinner is gone, and they have some cheese and crackers, and fall asleep exhausted in bed after three glasses of wine and no food. Now think about another scenario of three glasses of wine. You’re pouring a glass while you’re preparing a wonderful meal with your friends. Maybe your friend is in the kitchen chopping and you’re at the stove doing something else. You’re laughing. You’re sipping a glass of wine while you’re making a meal. Then the food is ready and it’s fantastic. You sit down for that meal and maybe pour a second glass of wine that you chose specifically because it matches the flavors of the dish that you just prepared, and the companionship continues, and the conversation continues, and you’re having such a wonderful evening and such a great time. Maybe you have a third glass after dinner, that little after dinner, nip of, port or a sherry or something like that. So those are three glasses of wine and two very different scenarios that are going to treat the body very differently.
Vince Ferguson
So how do we get someone to understand if sometimes overindulgence is damaging the body.
Dr. Erica Oberg
100%, exactly. And so the cue that I usually use with patients is to help them ask themselves, “Am I going to feel good about this decision tomorrow?” It feels good in the moment Reaching for, that whole bag of cookies. It might feel good in the moment, but is it going to feel good later? And true healthy pleasures are the ones that feel good in the moment and are going to feel good tomorrow.
Vince Ferguson
So it’s good to make that distinction.
Dr. Erica Oberg
Definitely.
Vince Ferguson
Some people think that they can eat whatever they want and do whatever, and as long as they feel good they can, they can over consume.
Dr. Erica Oberg
it’s truly about what does feel good. And when we ask ourselves that in a serious way and in a true physiologic way, you’re going to realize that bag of cookies is not, does not feel good It’s what we call a numbing pleasure. It, maybe numbs you out in the moment, but as soon as that bag of cookies is gone, the pleasure is gone and you’re going to feel awful. And so a lot of what’s at play there is the science of dopamine You probably have heard about dopamine. We often think about it as one of our pleasure neurotransmitters, but it also plays a huge role in motivation and consistency and reward. And so when we attune to the things that give us healthy dopamine spikes in good ways, doing that joyful dance class or feeling that sense of accomplishment after you completed a hard workout Those are healthy dopamine boosts that become positively reinforcing and help us turn towards those healthy pleasures that boost our dopamine in ways that are going to be sustainable.
Rethinking Restriction and Everyday Enjoyment
Vince Ferguson
Editor’s note: Vince is referring to a 21-day challenge in which participants avoided foods and drinks with added sugar.
I’m asking because I recently completed a 21-day sugar-free challenge in which participants avoided products containing added sugar. Sugar is in so many foods. And we’re constantly being told to eliminate sugar, avoid certain foods, count calories, and follow strict, routines. But are we basically causing more problems by trying to be so restrictive with our clients?
Dr. Erica Oberg
For some people, giving themselves more rules becomes more stressful. But in your sugar-free challenge, there is no question that there is too much sugar in our modern American food system. And so when you do something like a sugar-elimination challenge, I bet your participants noticed a few things. The taste of fruit was so much sweeter. The flavor of a good homemade treat, something sweetened naturally maybe with some applesauce or some of that.
Vince Ferguson
Cinnamon, yes.
Dr. Erica Oberg
Tastes so much better In fact, it’s a perfect example of attuning towards healthy pleasures. When you get rid of those numbing pleasures, like too much sugar in the diet, it resets your physiology to truly appreciate how nourishing and how sweet and how rewarding an apple can be.
Vince Ferguson
Yes. An apple with all its fiber and nutritional value.
The Science of Joy, Connection, and Stress
Vince Ferguson
You’re so right. I’m glad we did that. Let’s talk about hormones, because you argue that pleasure can influence our nervous system and overall health. But what actually happens inside the body when we experience joy, laughter, connection, or relaxation?
Dr. Erica Oberg
That’s a great question. Thanks for that prompt. So when we’re experiencing those pleasant emotions, everything that you just said, joy, connection, laughter, several things are happening. One is we are releasing oxytocin. Oxytocin is, the hormone that we often think about as our cuddle hormone. It’s the hormone that’s released when women are breastfeeding. It’s the hormone that’s released when we have orgasm, and it’s also the hormone that we release when we’ve had a nice, big hug. Has to be at least seven seconds long to get a good. Boost of oxytocin.
Vince Ferguson
Beautiful.
Dr. Erica Oberg
So on the hormone side, oxytocin is the major driver of our pleasure, but our nervous system is playing a big role as well. As you probably know, our nervous system can be in fight or flight mode or. Rest and digest mode. And when we’re in panic, whether it’s self-created or, screen created or otherwise, mental, physical, we by definition are not in the state of parasympathetic, which is where we rest, we repair, we restore, and that’s where our nervous system feels safe and secure, and that’s where we experience pleasure.
Vince Ferguson
Ah. That is so — And you said hugging somebody for seven seconds, right, releases.
Dr. Erica Oberg
That’s what a research study showed.
Vince Ferguson
That’s interesting.
Dr. Erica Oberg
Oxytocin starts releasing after a seven-second deep hug.
Vince Ferguson
That’s — I don’t remember hugging anybody for more than seven seconds, that — except for my family.
Dr. Erica Oberg
Test it out. Hug your partner, hug your children, hug your parents, hug your friends. A nice, a nice real hug will do a lot to, help not just your hormone system, but the person. That you’re hugging gets the benefit as well.
Vince Ferguson
That is so good, and it’s so nice to know that you’re not just doing it for yourself, you’re doing it for the other person, too.
Dr. Erica Oberg
And that’s actually a really important point that I talk to people about a lot. some people have a lot of guilt around, feeling pleasure or resting or. Taking care of themselves They feel they need to put everybody else first. But if we don’t take care of ourselves first, we don’t have the energy and the vitality to give of our full selves to others. So I remind people that you have to take time to rest and take care of yourself and enjoy your own life first, and that will fill up your cup and help you be able to feed that forward to others.
Menopause, Hormones, and Individualized Care
Vince Ferguson
That’s good advice. I recently interviewed Shannon Miller, a seven-time Olympic gold medalist, and she talked about how she was scheduled to have an appointment with her doctor and she was going to cancel it, but decided to go ahead and take the appointment. And if she didn’t take the appointment, she wouldn’t have known that she was — had cancer, And she was diagnosed with cancer, an ovarian cancer. And so she got through that, but she was saying that, if she didn’t take the time to take care of herself, she wouldn’t have noticed that. But my question is, I notice that’s the case with a lot of women. They seem to take care of others before they take care of themselves. Why is that?
Dr. Erica Oberg
They do. I know. I think it’s — a big piece of it is just the cultural construct We’re told to put others first, that we don’t deserve to feel good. it comes from our Puritanical work ethic, especially in the United States, that, “Oh, I’ll, I’ll have fun after I retire,” or, “I’ll get a, I’ll get a break after I’ve put in eight hours of productivity, at the office working for somebody else.” But the reality is, if you take time to take short breaks and rest, especially if you go outside and get a little bit of sunshine. When you come back to your work, you’re going to be more focused, you’re going to be more effective. You’re going to be in a better mood, and you’ll accomplish what you need to accomplish in much shorter time, rather than simply checking the clock and putting everybody else’s priorities before your own.
Vince Ferguson
Yeah, and I often tell people, you can’t help anyone until you help yourself.
Dr. Erica Oberg
That’s exactly right, Vince.
Vince Ferguson
Right? And that’s so, that’s so true. And I know so many women, they have these, they’re concerned about weight gain, brain fog, and sleep problems, and changes in sexual desire. But is that also a reason — is that also caused by menopause?
Dr. Erica Oberg
Certainly menopause, exacerbates all of those symptoms, but the challenging thing about menopause, I think, is also just where it occurs in a woman’s life In her early 50s on average. That also coincides for many women when the kids are in high school or college. They might be at the peak of their career. They’re probably juggling more things in life than they ever have before saving enough. For the 401(k) for some future retirement. So a very stressful time of life. It is for men, too, but men’s hormones don’t decline as dramatically in that midlife period as well. And so it can be doubly magnified. But as in my practice, we do a lot of hormone care. we use bioidentical hormones and start women on hormones through a very systematic 90-day process so that we can really individualize exactly what they need. We do it for men, too, because men need hormones just as much as women. And it’s not just always estrogen, progesterone. Testosterone plays a role. DHEA. Plays a role. Cortisol management plays a role. There’s a lot of different hormones involved. And really to have a smooth, menopausal transition, we need to address all of the hormones.
Vince Ferguson
you talk about hormone therapy. Some women say that it really totally transformed their lives, while others are frightened by reports of cancer and other risks. But are those concerns justified at all?
Dr. Erica Oberg
the study that scared everybody off of hormones 20 years ago was flawed and was retracted shortly thereafter, but the retraction didn’t get nearly the press that the original study did. So a whole generation of women have really been deprived of the option of bioidentical hormones, or any type of hormone really. And they, there is a slight increased risk, but it is so small. It’s smaller than most women, appreciate. The increased risk with hormone therapy is about equivalent to two glasses of wine a day. So there are a lot of things that we do that are far more risky in our lives. Eating fast food and not exercising at all. All of those things are increasing our risk substantially more than the exposure to hormones does specific to breast cancer risk. And what a lot of women don’t appreciate are the benefits of bioidentical hormone replacement It’s protecting our bones from osteoporosis. It’s protecting our hearts from cardiovascular disease. It’s protecting our brains from dementia. It’s improving our quality of life so that we’re happier and more vital and present for our partners and simply feeling better. So the benefits I think far outweigh the harms. And for each woman, that’s an individual conversation that she should have with a trusted doctor who truly knows the data and can help them make the decision. In the case of the woman you mentioned with a history of ovarian cancer, that’s a very different conversation. So it does need to be viewed individually. But on average, hormones are far safer than people think.
Vince Ferguson
that’s good to know. I’m sure a lot of people just aren’t aware. I think education is so important.
Dr. Erica Oberg
It is. I know. Thank you for doing things like this podcast and getting the word out there and educating people and helping people make the positive changes in their life. Truly is such a, such a valuable thing that you’re doing here.
GLP-1 Medications, Peptides, and the Wellness Industry
Vince Ferguson
Yes. And again, I know you discussed peptides, GLP-1 medication and stuff like that. That’s important, And I realize that people need to know more about these medications that’s available to them. But now, are we creating a multi-billion dollar industry that promises people they can buy their way to better health?
Dr. Erica Oberg
That is the dilemma, isn’t it? that’s kind of why I wrote my book in a, in a way that’s atypical for most doctors’ books I’m not promoting a particular supplement- — or a particular medication. I really wanted to remind people to get back to the basics of feeling good. That said, we do prescribe a lot of peptides and hormones and other strategies, but I view those as training wheels Sometimes we need a little help and support to get where we need to get. you see this I’m sure as weight loss is a particularly big challenge. It’s hard to exercise when you’re carrying around 100 extra pounds of weight. And so sometimes if we can get a couple pounds off, it builds confidence, reduces knee pain, and helps people start to develop those healthy habits in a, in a more sustainable way. And that way they don’t need to be on the medications for the rest of their lives. They’re really just using them as training wheels until they get the lifestyle bicycle up and running.
Vince Ferguson
Yeah, I love that analogy, training wheels. Exactly. Exactly. now, but what does concern me when it comes to, today’s wellness industry is that we can spend thousands of dollars on supplements, testing, and treatments. But are we making healthy aging or healthy, or health itself more expensive than it needs to be?
Dr. Erica Oberg
I cannot disagree with that at all You can’t out-supplement a joyless life. No pill is going to be more potent than physical activity. Helping our patients understand that and giving them things that feel good rather than the anticipation of the Amazon box that’s going to arrive with the newest health toy That’s a little dopamine boost right there, but only if. Only if you’re using them correctly Or ordered one that truly has some data behind it. There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of hype out there for sure. And helping people sort through, where there’s actual science and where it’s just hype is, I think an important part of the job that both you and I do.
Vince Ferguson
Definitely. But what I like about your work is that it’s science-backed. That’s so important because like you said, there’s a lot of hype out there, but we want to know the facts.
Dr. Erica Oberg
I think it is really important. I spent the first decade of my career in research, running clinical trials and epidemiology studies. Focusing on things like reversing diabetes and heart disease. And so taking that type of evidence-based, data-driven approach is so important to me in clinical practice, especially in, we’ll, we’ll call it the gray areas, things like peptide therapy Where the research has not caught up nearly quickly enough with the popular media and the number of people who are conducting N-of-one trials, testing them out on themselves. And so in those gray area situations, I think it’s important to be able to comb through the science, help people understand what’s plausible, what’s realistic, and what’s safe, especially in the peptide space. where are these things coming from? Are they being manufactured in China? Who knows what’s in them. Are they contaminated? Are there appropriate paperwork so that it was made in the, in the United States and What’s in the vial is actually what’s in the vial. Those are such important, steps before people play with, some of these therapies. They have a lot of potential, but picking the right one and picking one safely really requires a trusted, practitioner.
Vince Ferguson
Oh, you said a mouthful. Trusted practitioner. So important.
Loneliness, Social Bonds, and Healthy Aging
Vince Ferguson
Here’s another question, Doctor: Can someone be physically healthy according to their blood work, their weight, and their medical tests, yet still be living an unhealthy life because they’re lonely, stressed, unhappy, or disconnected from their community?
Dr. Erica Oberg
100%. 100%. I know. And those, I think, are the people that I hope my book really helps I think, and the research shows this, the most protective thing we can do to help us live longer is to have strong social bonds, strong connections. One or two trusted people that you can call when you need some support, when you need some help, people that you laugh with, people that, hold you accountable and help you do the positive healthy things in your life. That connection is the most protective thing that we have in terms of, longevity and a long health span.
Vince Ferguson
Most definitely. You see a lot of clients. What do you do with those who don’t have that support group around them?
Dr. Erica Oberg
We help them find it it might mean moving into a 55 and over community where the activities are plugged in. it’s encouraging them to join the Y. It’s, we host, events and wellness events where we try to connect people up together sometimes, right. So that people can build some community. I think it’s part of our responsibilities as, leaders and guides in the wellness space to help people find their people.
Vince Ferguson
Their tribe that is so nice. It’s another service you provide. That’s amazing.
Dr. Erica Oberg
we try, to varying degrees of success, but, Especially in the older adults, and my patients in their 70s and 80s, some even into their 90s, we really do try to put some extra effort into making sure they’re getting the social support that they need.
Vince Ferguson
That’s so important. And speaking of people in their 80s, 90s, and 100, centenarians, what do these individuals understand about pleasure, relationships, and purpose? Because there’s a place called the blue zone.
Lessons from Long-Lived Communities
Vince Ferguson
And these people live past 100 years old, and yet they tend to enjoy their lives. What is it that they do that is so important?
Dr. Erica Oberg
There’s a lot of wisdom in, Dan Buettner’s work of the blue zones. And in my book I share a lot of stories from, people in their 90s and 100s. So I’ll pass on the advice of, my dear, one of my dear patients, Dick, who passed away just shy of his 100th birthday. He said, “No one gets to my age and wishes they had worked more.”. And so his advice was to focus on those connections and those relationships. He was regretful that, during his younger years, his working years, he traveled for business, he missed out on his kids’ sporting events, he missed out on being really home and connecting and building a community. And he was one of those people that was pretty lonely late in life because he really hadn’t created those connections in the decades prior to that. And, so at the end of the day, he said, “No one wishes they worked more.”.
Vince Ferguson
That’s a good point. I know I don’t wish I had worked more. Spending time with the people you love is what matters.
Dr. Erica Oberg
It is. I think it’s a very important thing to remember to prioritize.
Rethinking Longevity Advice
Vince Ferguson
Yes. I think that’s a very important thing to remember. But if you could challenge one widely accepted piece of health or longevity advice that you believe deserves to be reconsidered, what would that be, and why?
Dr. Erica Oberg
One. Gosh. I would say it would be the idea of postponing joy. That is that you have to, you have to suffer through for it first. You have to put in your steps, do your work, check all the checkboxes before you take a break and rest and take a moment for yourself. So I would really encourage people not to postpone joy, to call that friend today, let somebody know you’re thinking of them. Take yourself outside, even if for only a few minutes in the sunshine. Get some fresh air. Do those little things. They add up and they make a big difference.
Healthy Hedonism and a Gift for Listeners
Vince Ferguson
A big difference. But for those people who want to learn more about what you’re doing, Doctor, because what you’re doing is so important and so impressive. And like I said, I don’t know many people, in the, in the medical space or the health and wellness space who are actually looking at your work like you, like you’re doing and focusing on enjoyment, enjoying your life as you move forward. It’s not just about counting calories and tracking your steps, but it’s about enjoyment along the way. And that’s so important. But how can people find out more about you, your practice, and your book?
Dr. Erica Oberg
two things. people who are interested in working with us clinically can find more information on my website, drericaoberg.com. But Vince, I have a gift for all of your audience members. I’m going to give you a QR code that you can put in your show notes here for a complimentary copy of the audiobook. So anybody who wants to, learn about this, we will happily, gift them a copy of the audiobook, because I really want this to, change people’s lives and their attitudes and do so in a joyful way. So we’ll make sure we get you those details before the show is published.
One Small Step Toward More Joy
Vince Ferguson
I definitely would appreciate that, and I personally will read the book myself because I could benefit from it as so many others can. But now, for someone watching or listening to the, to this show, if they could change just one thing this week to add more life to their years, what would you tell them to do?
Dr. Erica Oberg
Do something you love. Do something that’s going to make you laugh. Do something that’s going to make you smile. Put on the music and dance around the kitchen. Call up a friend. Tell yourself a joke. Listen to, the comedy show. Whatever it is that makes you smile- — and makes you laugh. Do an extra thing this week that’s going to make you smile.
Vince Ferguson
Do something extra this week that’s going to make you smile. That is so important, and I think living in the now is important, too Living in the, in the now.
Dr. Erica Oberg
Give yourself permission to enjoy the present. Don’t rush through it. Slow down a little and actually enjoy it. Thanks so much, Vince. This has been a delight.
About Dr. Erica Oberg & Special Reader Gift
Dr. Erica Oberg, ND, MPH, is a naturopathic doctor and author of Healthy Hedonism: Why Feeling Good Is Good for You. Her approach to wellness emphasizes the importance of pleasure, meaningful relationships, and sustainable healthy habits in supporting long-term health and well-being.
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