Seven-time Olympic medalist Shannon Miller almost cancelled a routine doctor’s appointment. That decision could have changed everything. In this powerful conversation with Vincent Ferguson on More Life to Your Years, Shannon shares the journey that took her from Olympic champion and member of the legendary Magnificent Seven to ovarian cancer survivor, women’s health advocate, entrepreneur and founder of Salto Health.

Shannon opens up about the appointment that led to her cancer diagnosis, the symptoms she initially brushed aside, the physical and emotional toll of chemotherapy, and why accepting help became an important part of her recovery.

But this conversation goes far beyond cancer. Shannon also reveals something many people may find surprising: after retiring from elite gymnastics, she went from training approximately 40 hours a week to doing virtually no exercise. She eventually had to rebuild her relationship with fitness from the ground up, beginning with simple, sustainable changes.

Now approaching 50, Shannon discusses why strength training, protein, sleep, physical activity and maintaining independence have become increasingly important to her. After losing significant muscle during chemotherapy, she experienced a frightening moment when her legs gave out while trying to chase her young son. That experience helped motivate her return to strength training and changed how she thinks about health for her 70s, 80s and 90s.

In this interview, you’ll discover Shannon’s perspective on healthy aging, women’s health, ovarian cancer awareness, strength after 40, resilience, goal setting and making your health a priority — along with the story behind Salto Health, the company she created to support cancer survivors and caregivers.

Shannon’s message ultimately comes down to something simple: meaningful change doesn’t have to happen overnight. Small actions — drinking more water, getting more sleep or adding even 10 minutes of physical activity — can become part of a healthier lifestyle.

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Full Episode Transcript

Interview with Shannon Miller

Meet Shannon Miller 7 Time Olympic Medalist

Opening: Beyond the Medals

Vince Ferguson: My guest today is Shannon Miller, one of the most decorated American gymnasts in history. She’s a two-time Olympian and seven-time Olympic medalist who helped lead The Magnificent Seven to the first-ever Olympic team gold medal for U.S. women’s gymnastics in 1996. She also captured individual gold on the balance beam and is the only female athlete to be inducted into the U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame not once, but twice. Today, we’re going beyond the medals. Shannon is also a cancer survivor, women’s health advocate, entrepreneur, and founder and CEO of Salto Health. Her journey has taken her from performing at the highest level in elite sports to stepping away from fitness, battling cancer, rebuilding her strength, and focusing on what it really means to live a longer, healthier, more purposeful life. I want to welcome Shannon Miller to my Six Weeks to Fitness podcast. Shannon, how are you?

Shannon Miller: I’m great. Thank you so much. What an introduction, thank you.

Vince Ferguson: It’s all you. I didn’t fabricate it or make it up. You are amazing.

Thirty Years After the Magnificent Seven

Vince Ferguson: What really amazes me, Shannon, is that this year marks 30 years since you and The Magnificent Seven made history by winning America’s first Olympic team gold medal in women’s gymnastics. Time flies, doesn’t it?

Shannon Miller: Time flies. Can you see the gray? It’s amazing. It’s been 30 years. Most of us were able to get together a few weeks ago for a reunion, and we had such a great time.

Vince Ferguson: You guys stay in touch with each other.

Shannon Miller: We do. We’re all spread across the U.S., and we’re all busy with families, work, and everything else, just like everybody does. But we try to text and see each other whenever possible.

Vince Ferguson: That’s beautiful. You made history together. When you look back at that 19-year-old young woman standing there with a gold medal around her neck, and then think about everything you’ve experienced in the 30 years since, what does that moment mean to you today that perhaps it couldn’t have meant to you back then?

Shannon Miller: I think you’re right. It takes some time. I feel like it took at least a decade to truly understand the impact our team made during the 1996 Olympics. It’s incredible to be 30 years out, have kids of my own, and have that separation to be able to look back. The medal is beautiful and wonderful, but it’s also about remembering all of the hard work that got you there – not just by me, but by so many people: trainers, coaches, and parents. It really was an incredible time. What I love now is that people still come up to me and talk about what they were doing, who they were with, and share their memories of that moment. They always have the biggest smile, and I love that so much.

Vince Ferguson: I would imagine that back then you had no idea the impact you would make on people.

Shannon Miller: No. We’re talking about an age before most people had the internet. You didn’t have social media or cell phone cameras, if you can imagine. Competing in that time, you didn’t really understand the enormity of the number of people all over the world watching in that moment until years later.

Vince Ferguson: Imagine that – no social media where every move you make is captured. You mentioned your parents.

Parents, Education and Life Beyond Gymnastics

Vince Ferguson: Your parents were very supportive from the very beginning. Now that you’re a parent yourself, is there anything you learned from them that you’re trying to carry over into raising your children?

Shannon Miller: I appreciated my parents very much at the time, but I appreciate even more now the difficult decisions they had to make and where they drew a hard line. For me, that was education. My parents were always focused on, yes, we’ll support you in all these wonderful things you want to do with gymnastics and the Olympics, but your education is going to last a lifetime. That is your foundation for the future. It really helped me. When I retired from Olympic competition, I kept up with my college classes, and it gave me that buffer between being an Olympic gymnast and trying to figure out real life, where I could educate myself and figure out what I wanted to do with my life. I’m so thankful for that. Another lesson they taught me was the fine line between what it means to quit and what it means to move on to something else. I don’t know if I understood it at the time, but I do now. It was very clear: ‘Don’t quit just because it got tough or because you want to stay home and watch TV. If you want to move on to something else, then let’s have that discussion, because at some point gymnastics is going to end and you’re going to need to do something else.’ Little things like that constantly come up, and you think, ‘Wow, they made some really tough decisions, and somehow they got it right.’ I hope I can do that too.

Vince Ferguson: Are you able to implement that type of discipline and guidance with your kids?

Shannon Miller: I hope so. I haven’t really had to have many of those discussions, and I think that’s because it’s always been part of our ethos and what we talk about. I talk about things like the importance of sleep and physical activity, and it’s just part of how they’ve grown up. Work ethic is important too. It doesn’t matter how big or small the task is – give it your best shot. It’s not about whether you win, and it’s not about being perfect. If you go out there and give 100%, you’re going to feel really good about what you did.

Vince Ferguson: Is there anything your parents taught you that you would do differently with your children?

Shannon Miller: Oh, they let me stay up too late.

Shannon Miller: I was a big sleeper anyway, luckily. It’s always hindsight’s 20/20, and you think, ‘Oh, I wish they would’ve done this. I wish they would’ve done that.’ But there really aren’t that many things I can point to and say, ‘This would’ve made a difference.’ There are some things about getting prepared for life that I think are sometimes lacking. I don’t know that high schools prepare teenagers to go out into the world of finance. How do you use a checkbook? Do you even use a checkbook anymore? Those types of things are important to learn. I was fortunate that I got some of those lessons, but I don’t know that they’re necessarily a requirement. So I think as parents, we have to teach our kids some of these things they might not know before they go off to college.

Vince Ferguson: You’re internationally known, not just nationally. Do your kids have any idea who their mother really is?

Shannon Miller: It’s funny you ask, because I don’t have a lot of memorabilia up and I didn’t really talk about gymnastics when they were younger. I was just Mom. It was funny when my daughter and I did a little mommy-and-me class at a local gymnastics center. They happened to have a poster of me on the wall. I was taking her to the restroom, and the poster was right there. She pointed up and said, ‘Mommy.’ It was a 1992 photo, and I couldn’t figure out how she even made the connection.

Shannon Miller: It’s fun. For me, I’m Mom first, and the gold medals don’t help me get them to bed any faster than anyone else.

Vince Ferguson: Here’s something I think would surprise a lot of people. After spending so much of your life as one of the most physically fit athletes in the world, you’ve talked about reaching a point after gymnastics when you were doing virtually no physical activity at all.

Vince Ferguson: How does an Olympic champion go from training at that level to not exercising at all?

Shannon Miller: It’s hard for me to even believe at this point. But go back to no social media, no fitness apps. I finished Olympic competition, and I had only trained in gymnastics. We didn’t lift weights or run on treadmills. For me, a workout meant getting on a balance beam or swinging around the uneven bars. When I didn’t have that, I just didn’t do anything. I didn’t recognize the importance of physical fitness for everyday life because I wasn’t training for a very specific goal.

Shannon Miller: And so I stopped doing anything, and I kept on with my college classes. So I was basically walking to class and walking home, and that was about it. And I kept eating my six full meals. When I was training six hours a day, I was eating six full meals a day. So I kept doing that, and that doesn’t work when you’re not physically active.

Shannon Miller: I gained about four dress sizes in a matter of months and thought, ‘Wait, what just happened?’ Then I started to look realistically at what my life had become. I was painfully shy at the time, so I didn’t do a lot socially. I was mostly in my apartment or going to class, and I realized how fatigued I always was. I thought, ‘This is crazy. I used to work out 40 hours a week, and now I’m tired walking to class?’

Shannon Miller: I started to take stock. The first thing I did was write down any exercise I did and all the food I ate for two weeks. I didn’t change anything; I just wrote it down.

Shannon Miller: When I looked at it, I realized I hadn’t seen a vegetable. I hadn’t gotten any protein. I wasn’t doing any activity other than walking to class. It shocked me to see it on paper. I went to the library and started doing some research. As I did that, I started thinking about people in my life, particularly women, who put their health on the back burner. They don’t get to the doctor because they’re too busy doing things for everyone else, or they’re not getting enough physical activity or eating nutritiously. I thought it shouldn’t be that hard.

Shannon Miller: How do we make health easier and more accessible for people who have busy lives? We’re not all going to cut everything out of our diet. I tried cutting chocolate. It worked for about three days, and then I went to the store and bought all the chocolate.

Shannon Miller: I wanted to focus on health and wellness, particularly for women, and help them make their health a priority in a way they could do incrementally, just like I did in gymnastics. I didn’t go to the Olympics overnight. I started with sit-ups and push-ups. You start with small changes you can make every day that add up to huge health benefits.

Vince Ferguson: Was that enough to get you back on track?

Shannon Miller: It was a process, for sure. It didn’t happen overnight. I had to get used to the idea that this wasn’t going to be instant gratification. I was going to have to work for it, and that sent me back into the athlete mentality: if you’re going to reach a goal, you have to do the work.

Shannon Miller: I started thinking about it in those terms.

Vince Ferguson: So you were able to bring what you learned in gymnastics – that determination, that grit – into this process, right?

Shannon Miller: Yeah. I will say it wasn’t as hard as gymnastics, though. I wanted to make it easy. So it was very simple fixes at first. It was adding protein to meals and going into that gym and trying to figure out how to use the equipment, which was very embarrassing. In fact, the first time I walked into an actual training gym – not a gymnastics gym – I looked around, felt so intimidated and walked right out. I had no idea what to do. I felt like there had to be other people out there who felt like me, so I wanted to make things more accessible and easier to understand – a way for people to say, “I can do this. I don’t have to run a marathon today, but if I get up and walk around the block, that’s a win.”

Vince Ferguson: That’s a win. In 2011, your life took a dramatic turn when you were diagnosed with a rare form of ovarian cancer. Before we talk about the treatment, take me back to that period. What led to the diagnosis, and what do you want women to understand about making their own health a priority?

Shannon Miller: The summer of 2010 was when I launched my first company, focused on women’s health and wellness. We were doing fun videos. I was pregnant with my son when we filmed pregnancy videos about fitness and health. I was also hosting a radio show and interviewing physicians and nurses about health topics. That fall, we talked a lot about cancer awareness and the importance of early detection.

Shannon Miller: Around that time, I looked at my calendar and saw that I needed to be out of town for work on the day of my doctor’s appointment.

Shannon Miller: I called to cancel, but while I was on hold, I felt such guilt. Here I was, an advocate for women’s health, and I wasn’t walking the walk.

Shannon Miller: I took the first appointment available, which was that morning. I went in, told my doctor I felt fine and everything was great. I’m thinking, ‘How fast can I get out of here?’

Shannon Miller: He said, ‘Nope. We’re going to stop. We’ve got to pause,’ because I had a baseball-sized cyst on my left ovary, which we would eventually find out was ovarian cancer. My world stopped at that moment. It wasn’t until after surgery and the diagnosis that I realized I had been having three of the four primary ovarian cancer symptoms, and I had brushed them all off. I was a new mom. My body was going crazy anyway, so the stomach aches were just, ‘Okay, that’s a stomach ache. I’ll power through.’

Shannon Miller: Bloating – what woman worries about that? It happens every month, so it’s not necessarily a red flag. I had also lost about eight pounds within about a month. Normally that would be a red flag, but I was thinking, “Oh, I’m losing baby weight. That’s great.”

Shannon Miller: For me, these weren’t big red flags. That’s the scary thing about ovarian cancer: there really is no test to detect it, and these symptoms can feel very benign or like regular monthly women’s issues.

Vince Ferguson: Did you feel that your body had betrayed you, especially since you were a health advocate at the time?

Shannon Miller: I don’t know. I was never someone who thought, “Why me?” Cancer doesn’t care who you are, where you’re from or how many gold medals you have. It’s cancer. For me, it was more the shock. No one in my family had ever had ovarian cancer. At the time, it was what we considered an older person’s disease, which we now know it is not.

Shannon Miller: It was such a shock. Being a new mom, the only thought I had was, ‘Is my son going to have a mother?’ That’s really the only thought I could have at that point.

Vince Ferguson: Why do you think women sometimes become so busy caring for everyone else that they don’t even keep their own appointments? It happens to so many women I know. Why is that?

Shannon Miller: I can’t speak for every woman out there.

Vince Ferguson: I ask because I often hear about women making sure their husbands get to the doctor while putting off their own health concerns. How intense were the surgery and chemotherapy? Talk about that road back.

Shannon Miller: I think the hardest part of surgery was going in not knowing what I was going to wake up to.

Shannon Miller: The mental, emotional, and psychological aspect of not knowing was the most difficult part. When I woke up, they had found a rare form of ovarian cancer and removed the tumor. We all thought, ‘Okay. We got it,’ and life was going to move on. A couple of weeks later, I found out it was a higher-grade malignancy and I’d need chemotherapy. That’s when it became more real, because we had thought, ‘Okay, we’re done. We got it.’

Shannon Miller: Chemotherapy takes on a life of its own. Getting prepared, I couldn’t do much after the surgery. I wasn’t even allowed to hold my son, so I had to just cuddle with him on the couch.

Shannon Miller: I focused on protein and hydration to get prepared, because the only goal with chemo was to get through it without stopping. I really thought I was prepared for that.

Shannon Miller: By the end of the first week, I couldn’t keep down food or water. I was put back in the hospital. It was a much harder journey than I had ever imagined – absolutely the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do. I could never have gotten through it without my team.

Vince Ferguson: Your team being the support system around you?

Shannon Miller: It was everyone who would help, and it took me a little while to get to that point. I wanted to do it by myself, not bother anyone or burden anyone with what I was going through. My attitude was, “You guys take care of yourselves. I’ll handle this.”

Shannon Miller: I couldn’t do it alone, and you shouldn’t have to. I don’t want anyone to think they have to handle this on their own. There are so many people who want to help. I started thinking about my great medical team, but also friends, family, and neighbors who wanted to pitch in. I finally started accepting help and even asking for it.

Shannon Miller: That was very hard to do, but at some point, when you hit your lowest moment, you’re like, ‘Okay, I give up. Please help me.’

Vince Ferguson: Is that why you started Salto Health?

Shannon Miller: It is. Salto Health is a company I started for cancer survivors and caregivers. It’s based in large part on my own journey, but also on the last 15 years I’ve spent working within the cancer community. I saw so many people going through the exact same things: survivors not knowing what they needed and not wanting to ask for help, and caregivers – loved ones, friends, family, neighbors, coworkers – asking, ‘How can I help? What can I do?’ The two weren’t meeting. We built Salto Health as a platform to bridge that gap. Patients or caregivers can go onto the platform and create a gift list from items curated specifically for the cancer journey. They add the products and send the link out. When someone asks, ‘What can I do? How can I help?’

Shannon Miller: You can send the link. It’s been amazing to provide that product-layer support and help survivors get what they really need. A lot of times, we think about food and flowers, but it might be a specific skincare product, a wig, a port-accessible shirt, or other things most of us don’t know about until we enter the world of cancer.

Vince Ferguson: I haven’t heard of another company like that. That’s so important.

Shannon Miller: It’s been wonderful, and the feedback we’ve gotten has been incredible. I’ll cry tears of joy in my office when I get messages from people saying, ‘I really didn’t think anyone was going to get anything. I didn’t think I had that much support. I thought they were just saying it to be nice.’

Shannon Miller: Then they realize the support that’s flooding in.

Shannon Miller: It hits them in that moment, and then it hits them again when something lands on their doorstep, they open it, and they know someone was thinking of them.

Vince Ferguson: What have survivors told you about this experience? Have they given you any feedback?

Shannon Miller: About the Salto Health experience or the cancer?

Vince Ferguson: The support you’re giving them.

Shannon Miller: I get the greatest messages. A lot of it is shock that people actually help. I understand where they’re coming from because I was in that same boat, but I’ve also been on the caregiver side. My mother is a two-time survivor, and we lost my father-in-law to colon cancer. So I’ve been on the side of, ‘I want to help. I will do anything.’

Shannon Miller: We get messages from people saying, ‘We did this because someone said we should. We didn’t think anyone would actually use it or help. We thought they were being nice.’ Then all of a sudden, products start flooding in. It opens the door not only to getting survivors what they need, but also to creating a conversation. Every product on Salto Health has a ‘Why It Matters’ section. When friends and family purchase an item, they can see why that particular item meets the guidelines for the list and how it affects a cancer patient. It’s a very quick paragraph, but it invites you into the world of the survivor so you can understand a little better what they’re going through.

Vince Ferguson: Are you partnering with other health institutions through Salto Health?

Shannon Miller: Yeah. We work with some amazing nonprofits, cancer centers, proton centers and hospitals all over the nation. We’re a resource that helps extend their services by providing product-layer support beyond the hospital walls. When you’re at the hospital or at infusion, you’re getting great care. If you have nausea, they’ve got you. If you need something, they’re there. It’s when you go home that it gets really hard. It’s the quiet night, being unable to sleep, the worry, the anxiety, the nausea when there’s no physician around. Those are the moments where we want to be there.

Vince Ferguson: That’s such an important time, especially when you’re home and may feel alone.

Rebuilding Strength and Rethinking Longevity

Vince Ferguson: You need to know somebody is there with you. When it comes to your own physical health, talk about the importance of strength training.

Shannon Miller: I got a quick lesson in strength training. I lost most of my muscle going through chemotherapy. Gentle physical activity is so important during a cancer journey, and there’s so much research behind it. I was doing gentle yoga and a lot of walking as I felt better, but I wasn’t getting back to any kind of strength training. Then one day we were in the backyard and my son, who was maybe four or five, tagged me and took off. I went to chase him, got about three steps in and collapsed. My legs just gave out. I played it off for him like, “Oh, I just tripped.”

Shannon Miller: I got back up, but I knew my legs were that weak, and it scared me. At that point, I started getting back into a gym. I worked with a trainer at first to make sure I was doing the right exercises for me, and then I decided I was going to do it. Five days a week, I would work out and add strength training. Now I’m coming up on the big 5-0, so for me it’s about longevity – being able to continue to be independent into my 70s, 80s, and 90s.

Shannon Miller: What does that mean for strength, sleep, nutrition, protein – all the things I now make a priority? Because if we don’t start today, it doesn’t happen.

Vince Ferguson: I like that because when I talk about longevity, it’s not simply about living a long life. I want to remain capable – to have the strength, energy, and independence you’re talking about.

Vince Ferguson: That’s so important. And now you’re lifting weights, correct?

Shannon Miller: Yes, I’m lifting weights. They don’t have to be crazy heavy. I’m not trying to bench press 300 pounds. But it is important, especially for women, that we aren’t afraid of muscle. Muscle makes us strong. We have to think about this as we hit our 40s and 50s, and it starts early. If we want to be strong in our 70s, 80s and 90s, it starts in our 30s and 40s. We have to say, “Okay, today matters. What I do today with my health and my body matters – not just today or tomorrow, but 10 or 20 years down the road.”

Vince Ferguson: Absolutely. I often say the body you’re building today is the body you’re building for the future.

Shannon Miller: And it’s not just the body, it’s your cognitive health as well. The things that you do in the gym also help with your cognitive health.

Vince Ferguson: We can’t talk enough about that.

Vince Ferguson: Studies have shown that exercise can help improve brain health.

Success, Goals and What Comes Next

Vince Ferguson: You want to stay as sharp as possible. You’ve achieved a tremendous amount in your lifetime, and you’re still moving forward. How do you define success?

Shannon Miller: Oh, that’s a hard one. I don’t think of success as some huge event like the Olympics.

Shannon Miller: I think of success incrementally. I think of success as meeting my goal. Success today might be finishing six loads of laundry, and I can check the box and go, ‘Yeah.’

Shannon Miller: Other days it might be perfecting a balance beam routine at the Olympic Games. It depends on what the goal is, but for me, success is meeting the goal I’ve set out to achieve. If I can do that, I can feel really good. Do I hit all my goals? No.

Shannon Miller: Even if I don’t reach that goal, I can feel pretty good about the effort and the work I put in to get there. It always leads you somewhere. It’s like talking to someone who says, ‘I want to do a marathon,’ and they’ve already done three half-marathons. You say, ‘Okay, go for the marathon.’

Shannon Miller: If you don’t ever do the marathon, keep doing half-marathons. It’s great.

Vince Ferguson: It’s good to have goals – something to strive for.

Shannon Miller: It is. Sometimes we think of goals as something so big that we might never accomplish it, but we want to get there. Those goals are great – think outside the box and go for it, because you never know. But you can have goals at all kinds of levels. Have long-term goals, but have short-term goals as well, because you want to feel that sense of achievement every day, every week, and every month. Those smaller achievements are what keep you going toward the longer-term goal.

Vince Ferguson: You heard it right here from an Olympic champion: build around goals.

Vince Ferguson: At 19, you had already accomplished more than most people will accomplish in a lifetime. Thirty years later, after Olympic gold, motherhood, surviving cancer, rebuilding your health, advocacy and now Salto Health, what are you still reaching for?

Shannon Miller: Salto Health is a big one right now because it’s my priority as far as business goes. Motherhood is my biggest priority. Motherhood is a hard one, because what is the goal?

Shannon Miller: To create people who go out into the world and do good things. That’s a hard one.

Shannon Miller: I guess my next goal is to focus on each bucket I have and make sure I’m spending my time wisely – making sure my priorities are in order and I’m focused in those areas. I also set three new goals every year for things I want to do or learn how to do. This year I learned how to play mahjong.

Shannon Miller: Now I’ve got to learn to play golf again because I haven’t played in a while. I just pick oddball things. I did taekwondo or jujitsu for two years a couple of years ago because I thought, “Well, I’m just going to go for it.” Having goals doesn’t have to mean they’re in business or a specific area. Just have fun. Set some goals you think would be fun to do.

Vince Ferguson: If it’s not fun, it can start to feel like work. For people who want to learn more about you, Salto Health, or follow you, where’s the best place to go?

Shannon Miller: Saltohealth.com. It’s S-A-L-T-O health.com. Salto is actually a flip in gymnastics. When I was thinking of a name, I thought of that feeling you get when you hear it’s cancer and your world just turns upside down. We want to help right-side that. So, saltohealth.com and Salto Health on all the social channels. For me personally, shannonmiller.com is an easy one, and all my socials are on there.

Vince Ferguson: I’m glad you explained where the name Salto came from. Of course it had to have a gymnastics connection, right?

Shannon Miller: I had to give it a little nod to gymnastics.

Vince Ferguson: I have one more question – one I ask all my guests. If someone watching or listening today could change just one thing this week to add more life to their years, what would you tell them to do?

Shannon Miller: I’m actually going to give a few, because some people are stronger in certain areas than others. Put down one tea or one soda and swap it with water each day. That’s an easy one. Get an hour more sleep – take that hour you might spend scrolling and use it for sleep. Another would be to do something physically active. It doesn’t matter what it is. Pick up a jump rope, go out in the yard, or walk around the block after dinner. Get at least 10 minutes of exercise. If you get 10 minutes one day, try two 10-minute segments the next day, and try to keep that up four or five times a week. Again, it’s about incremental changes you can work into your lifestyle without feeling like you have to upend your world, because everyone is busy.

Shannon Miller: We want to be able to fit these changes into our lifestyle.

Vince Ferguson: Beautiful. Excellent advice from a pretty good gymnast. Shannon Miller, I really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your story with my listeners and viewers today.

Vince Ferguson: And to everyone watching or listening, thank you for joining us on Six Weeks to Fitness. If you’ve enjoyed this conversation like I did, please like, subscribe and share it with someone who could benefit. If you prefer to listen on the go, the Six Weeks to Fitness podcast is also available on Apple and Spotify. Until next time, I’m Vince Ferguson, and that’s seven-time Olympic medalist Shannon Miller. Stay healthy, stay strong, and keep adding more life to your years. God bless.